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Let's turn our attention again to the
gospel of John, at beginning in Chapter
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Seven, Verse Twenty Five, and
Reading through Ver Chapter Eight, verse thirty.
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Last week we took some time to
carefully think about the context in which
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John is speaking. You remember,
perhaps, the controversy that touched all of
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this off, when Jesus healed a
man on the sabbath and when he was
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accused of breaking God's law for doing
that, he defended himself by saying that
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he is divine, that he is
working as the father is working. I'm
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it's in light of that controversy that
Jesus is speaking these words. Let's give
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our attention to them now. John
Seven, verse Twenty Five. Some of
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the people of Jerusalem therefore said,
is not this the man whom they seek
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to kill? And here he is
speaking openly and they say nothing to him.
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Can it be that the authorities really
know that this is the Christ?
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But we know where this man comes
from, and when the Christ appears,
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no one will know where he comes
from. So Jesus proclaimed, as he
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taught in the temple. You Know
Me and you know where I come from,
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but I have not come of my
own accord. He who sent me,
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is true, and him you do
not know. I know him,
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for I come from him and he
sent me. So they were seeking to
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arrest him, but no one laid
a hand on him because his hour had
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not yet come. Yet many of
the people believed in him. They said,
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when the Christ appears, will he
do more signs than this man has
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done? The Pharisees heard the crowd
muttering these things about him, and the
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chief priests and the Pharisees sent officers
to arrest him. Jesus then said,
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I will be with you a little
longer and then I am going to him
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who sent me. You will seek
me and you will not find me.
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where I am going, you cannot
come. The Jews said to one another.
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Where does this man intend to go
that we will not find him?
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Does he intend to go to the
dispersion among the Greeks and teach the Greeks?
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What does he mean by saying you
will seek me and you will not
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find me, and where I am
going or where I am you cannot come?
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On the last day of the feast, the Great Day, Jesus stood
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up and cried out if anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink.
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Whoever believes in me, as the
scripture has said, out of his
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heart will flow rivers of living water. Now this he said about the spirit
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whom those who believed in him were
to receive, for as yet the spirit
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had not been given because Jesus was
not yet glorified. When they heard these
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words, some of the people said, this really is the prophet, others
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said this is the Christ, but
some said is the Christ to come from
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Galilee? Has Not? The scripture
said that Christ comes from the offspring of
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David and comes from Bethlehem, the
village where David was so there was a
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division among the people over him.
Some of them wanted to arrest him,
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but no one laid their hands on
him. The officers then came to the
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chief priests and Pharisees, who said
to them, why did you not bring
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him? The officers answered, no
one ever spoke like this man. The
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Pharisees answered them, have you also
been deceived? have any of the authorities
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of the fair? have any of
the authorities or the Pharisees believed in him?
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But this crowd does not know or
but this crowd, this crowd that
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does not know the law, is
a cursed Nicodemus, who had gone to
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him before and who was one of
them, said to them. Does our
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law judge a man without first giving
him a hearing and learning what he does?
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They replied, are you from Galilee
to search and see that no prophet
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arises from Galilee? Now, going
to Chapter Eight, verse twelve, again
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Jesus spoke to them, saying I
am the light of the world. Whoever
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follows me will not walk in darkness
but will have the light of life.
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So the Pharisees said to him.
You're bearing witness about yourself, your testimony
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is not true. Jesus answered,
even if I do bear witness about myself,
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my testimony is true, for I
know where I came from and where
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I am going, but you do
not know where I come from or where
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I am going. You judge according
to the flesh. I judge no one.
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Yet even if I do judge,
my judgment is true, for it
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is not I alone who judge,
but I and the father who sent me.
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In your law it is written that
the testimony of two people is true.
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I am the one who bears witness
about myself, and the father who
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sent me bears witness about me.
They said to him. Where is your
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father? Jesus answered, you know
neither me nor my father. If you
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knew me, you would know my
father also these words. He spoke in
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the Treasury, as he taught in
the temple, but no one arrested him
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because his hour had not yet come. So he said to them again,
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I am going away and you will
seek me and you will die in your
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sin. where I am going,
you cannot come. So the Jews said,
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will he kill himself, since he
says where I am going, you
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cannot come. He said to them. You are from below, I am
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from above. You are of the
world or of this world. I am
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not of this world. I told
you that you would die in your sins,
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for unless you believe that I am
he, you will die in your
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sins. So they said to him. Who Are you? Jesus said to
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them, just what I have been
telling you from the beginning. I have
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much to say about you and much
to judge, but he who sent me
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is true, and I declare to
the world what I have heard from him.
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They did not understand that he had
been speaking to them about the father.
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So Jesus said to them, when
you have lifted up the son of
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man, you will know that I
am he and that I do nothing on
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my own authority, but speak just
as the father taught me, and he
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who sent me is with me.
He has not left me alone, for
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I always do the things that are
pleasing to him. As he was saying
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these things, many believed in him, all men. So one of the
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things that we see in this passage, one of the questions that the whole
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gospel of John, you might even
say the whole Bible, is answering,
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is who is Jesus? Right?
It comes up again and again. They
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are sort of circling around with him
in this conversation, back and forth,
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back and forth. Who Are you? I told you who I am,
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you're not listening, and so on
and so forth. But those who hear,
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those who believe, they receive really
wonderful things, eternal life, the
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spirit, these things are are tied
to him, him not being someone we
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imagine, not being someone we speculate
about, but Jesus as he has revealed
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himself. And so for that reason
it's important for us to pay attention to
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these words, as challenging as they
are. In many ways, his words
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is he is unfolding and revealing himself, who he is. We must pay
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attention because, as the word says, it's by believing in these things that
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he is saying, that we have
eternal life, not believing them as a
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set of doctrine that we can just
stick in our back pockets, but believing
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in them, which is to believe
in him and trust him for everything,
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to find not just a certain ideas
about him, but to know him as
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he is. Imagine, for example, let's say that you met a family
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member that you had not known existed
before. Maybe you lost track of and
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you finally you connect on the internet
or something like that. You get a
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chance to meet them, you sit
down with them for coffee and they start
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revealing to you who they are.
They talk about your family connections, they
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talk about their relationships, in their
lives. And what, after all this
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time and after all this excitement,
who is this person? You just start
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tuning out? Is Sir whatever.
On and on they go, talking about
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their life. Right, it wouldn't. No one would. None of us
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would do that. Right, we
would pay close the tention would do,
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would ask them questions, we would
seek to know more and more who they
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are so that we could know them, so that we could be connected with
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them, have a relationship with them. If that's true of a long lost
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friend or a family member or something
like that, how much more true for
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the one that all of human history
has been waiting for, that God has
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been promising since the man, since
mankind first fell under the curse, that
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a son would be born that would
crush the head of the serpent, that
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a son of David would be born
who would establish an eternal kingdom in which
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God's people would live forever and safety
and protection. This Christ, this prophet,
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this king, this son of David, the son of Adam, he's
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here. It's time to tune in, to pay attention, to listen to
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what he is saying. He is
revealing himself to us, and that's why
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we're taking time to read of these
long passages, to not just sort of
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move through them quickly, but to
really begin to see both the big picture
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as well as some of the details. Last week we considered this particular detail
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about his revelation that he comes from
the father, that he is sent from
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the father. We thought about how
this fact that he has sent means that
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we have this gift, this gift
of love. Jesus was sent not on
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a Lark or God was bored and
didn't have anything to do. He's not
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like the Pagan Gods. He's not
like the stories that you hear about the
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Greek and the Roman and other gods. Now, Jesus was sent not because
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he was bored or he didn't have
anything else to do or he wanted to
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mess with us. He was sent
because he loved us, because God loved
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us before even time began. EPHESIANS
talks about that and love. We were
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predestined for. This adoption in Christ
an amazing thing. And here he is,
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this gift of love and sending the
son. God loved us. You
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remember that famous first and John,
John Sixteen, for God soul loved the
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world that he gave His only begotten
Son that whoever believes in him should not
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perish but have everlasting life. We
also thought about how this fact that he
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is sent from God and the things
that he says surrounding that point to us,
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or point us to this big fact
that John is making in his Gospel,
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that Jesus is the son of God, that his sending to to us,
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his coming and his incarnation is deeply
connected to his to his person as
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the One Who is eternally begotten of
God, and that our hearing and our
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believing in him is the key,
is the deciding factor for our relationship with
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the father. This is what it
means that Jesus is sent and how we
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are to receive him. Today we
consider a second aspect of that work that
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Jesus mentions a several times throughout this
passage, and it's a theme that will
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come up again and again in the
book of John, and it's this you
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read them. You read these words
first in John Thirty three. He says,
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I will be with you a little
longer and then I am going to
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him who sent me. So you
hear the connection between these two things.
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The one to who sent him is
the one to whom he is going.
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There is a sending in a going
that are connected with one another. I
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will be with you a little longer
and then I am going to him who
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sent me. And he goes on
to say you will seek me and you
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will not find me where I am. You cannot come. Now he doesn't
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explain why that is. They're they're
asking why can't we come? Is he
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going to the dispersion right? Is
he going to leave Galilee and go out
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and teach and do these things out
in the rest of the world. That's
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one idea they had. The other
ideas. Is he going to kill himself?
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Is that what he means? Is
he going to commit suicide? Is
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that why he means like where he
is going, cannot come? Well,
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Jesus tells them later on, as
you when as you continue reading as we
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did, he tells them what I
mean is that I am going to the
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father and you cannot come because you
do not know him, you do not
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know him, because you do not
believe in me, and because you do
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not believe in me, you will
die in your sins. That's what he
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means by saying this. Who is
this man, they say? Some people
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saying this is the prophet that was
promised, other people saying this is verse
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Forty One, this is the Christ. There's all kinds of confusion about him.
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Hopefully we can learn from their mistakes, knowing that, with God's help
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or without God's help, we'd make
the very same ones, but with him,
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listening to him, believing him,
we can find a better way instead
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of resting on our assumptions, instead
of simply assuming things about Jesus we hear
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what he says. Listen to what
John says in Verse Eight and Twelve,
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and then I'm going to pause for
a moment and sort of step over here
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and do a little bracket conversation.
Okay, so Jesus explains this in verse
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twelve and he says Jesus spoke to
them saying I am the light of the
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world. Whoever follows me will not
walk in darkness but will have the light
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of life. After this he gets
into a conversation where they accuse him of
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having false testimony, but then he
picks up that theme when he says Verse
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Eighteen, I am the one who
bears witness about myself, and the father
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who sent me bears witness about me. They said to him, therefore,
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where is your father, right here, this location language, where is your
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father? Jesus answered, you know
neither me nor my father. If you
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knew me, you would know my
father also. So what we see is
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that are believing in him is very
much tied to our following him, and
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these questions about him coming, being
sent and him going relate to us,
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because we follow him. Whoever follows
me, he says, will not walk
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in darkness but will have the light
of life. where I am going,
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he says to these unbelieving Jews,
you cannot come because you are not following.
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Do you see how this language is
all tied together, the coming and
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the going, of the sending and
and the leaving, this all and this
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relates to us, because we are
to his disciples. We desire, I
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are, to follow him, we
want to go where he goes. I
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want to look at some other verses
in relation to this before we do this.
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I do want to so, like
I said, sort of step over
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here. Here's a little sidebar.
Okay, this is I'm doing this because
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of these brackets that you have at
the end of Chapter Seven, in the
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beginning, going to eight hundred and
twelve. You actually have, or sort
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of going to have, a bracketed
conversation because of these brackets that many of
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you have in your Bible's what you'll
see there, along with a footnote.
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So in my Bible here it says
in the footnotes some manuscripts do not include
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seven hundred and fifty three through eight
and eleven, and then it also notes
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others add a passage here or after
hundred and thirty six or after two thousand
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one. Hundred and twenty five or
after Luke thirty eight, with variations in
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the text. In other words,
there's lots and lots of inconsistency in this
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particular passage when we look at the
old manuscripts. And so, for that
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reason, this gives us a question. How do we consider this passage?
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Do we do we take it with
the rest all together? Can we be
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confident, as someone asked me,
that this section is the word of God?
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And the answer is no. In
fact, we can be confident that
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it is not the word of God. Now that might feel a little disturbing
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because you're seeing it here in a
book that you call Your Bible. Right.
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Why is this here in the Bible? And so that deserves a little
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more explanation. What we have here
is what's possibly a true story. That's
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possible, which is probably why it
was added later on, but there are
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lots of true things that aren't in
the Bible. Our question about this passage
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is not whether or not something could
have happened, but whether it did and
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whether God intended it to be part
of his word. The answer in this
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case is no, we don't believe
it's a part of his word because we
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don't believe it's in the original manuscripts. That's why. So it's not an
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arbitrary thing based on sort of what's
in the passage or there's a doctrine we
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don't like or something we're confused about. That's not how we handle God's word.
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We ask what were we given,
and in this case these words shouldn't
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be taken as an errant or infallible
because it's not original. It might have
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a have interest interest to you from
a historical or a scholarly perspective, but
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it shouldn't have interest to us from
a Christian or a perspective of someone looking
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to God's word to set their faith
on, just as you wouldn't look at
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anything else that's not in the Bible. So then, why am I speaking
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with such confidence that this is not
in the scripture? It's because scholars a
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unanimously believe that it's our almost unanimously, I suppose there's always somebody who disagrees,
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but very strongly, that this is
not a part of the original Gospel
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God gave us. And I'll share
with you three reasons why this is the
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case. Very, very briefly.
I just want to address this and sort
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of move on, but I'm happy
to talk about this more with you another
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time if you like. These three
reasons come from a new testament scholar,
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Bruce Metzger, writing for the Textual
Committee of one of the critical additions of
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the Greek so three reasons very quickly. The first is that this passage is
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not found in the best manuscripts,
the earliest manuscripts, or a diverse range
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of manuscripts. And as the note
here and that I read to you and
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this Bible suggests, the passage itself, even when it is found, is
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not consistently there in the same way. So the pet that's number one.
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This passage is not found in the
best, the earliest or a diverse range
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of manuscripts. The second reason,
and I'll quote here, there's a good
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baby name for anyone who's looking.
Coming up a second no Greek church father
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prior to Euthemius Zygabenus. So there's
your baby name. No Greek church father
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prior to you, thin me as
Zygabenus. This is in the twelve century.
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No Greek father prior to this man
in the twelve century even comments on
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this passage. And when euthemius declares
when he talks about it. He says
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that the accurate copies of the Gospel
don't contain it. So we don't have
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any comments on this passage in the
in the eastern church until this time.
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And then the one comment it is
says that the accurate copies don't have it.
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And the third is that the style
and the vocabulary are very different from
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the rest of John's Gospel. You
could add a fourth to it interrupts the
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flow of the narrative. It doesn't
really seem to belong. So anyway,
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these are the reasons why we can
be confident that that it wasn't part of
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the original Gospel but was added at
some point in history, and possibly because
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it was old. But nevertheless,
it shouldn't be preached or read as the
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Word of God. The good news
is that God does not leave us without
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the voice of our savior. He
doesn't sort of leave us where we don't
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we're lacking nothing. In other words, by not I'm having this as a
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part of God's word. He speaks
to US clearly, speaks to US truly
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and he continues what we have in
verse twelve. And so let's go now
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back off the sidebar back to verse
twelve and continue our thinking through this passage.
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So Jesus says, I am the
light of the world. Whoever follows
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me will not walk in darkness,
but will have the light of life.
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In Verse Fourteen, he affirms this. He says my testimony is true,
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for I know where I came from
and where I am going. They say,
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where is your father? He responds
by saying you know neither me nor
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my father. If you knew me, you would know my father also.
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What are we to take from this? These words, for one, remind
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us of the unity between the father
and the son. Here's the thing,
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and this is very common still today. They claim to know the father but
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not Jesus, like we know God, but who are you? Or they
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claim to know Jesus but not the
father. Hey, we know you.
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We know where you came from.
Where is your father? Who is your
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father? What are you talking about? Jesus says, though, it's impossible
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to truly do either one of these
things. You can claim to know one
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and not the other. Know the
father but not the son, or no,
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the son but not the father.
But Jesus says, it's impossible.
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You either know both or you know
none. Why? Because the father and
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the son, though distinct persons,
are not divided in their essence. They
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are the one and the same God. If one bears witness, both bear
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witness. As Jesus has said and
is saying, the son is from the
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father, Jesus says, and is
also one with him. Praise gone.
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The son is, the son of
God, is not from the father like
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a human sons are a human son, my son's, for example. They
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have their own will, their own
plans, their own power. The son
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of God, though, is different. No surprise there. We're talking about
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the divine nature. He is creator, not created. He's entirely different from
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us. We can't judge him based
at we can't judge him or determine him
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in human categories. Nevertheless. So
how is he different? Well, he's
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different at that. The son of
God says, as he keeps saying,
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that everything that he has, everything
that he has, is from the father.
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So he has his own will,
but it's a will that is from
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the father and totally united with him, and therefore one will, and the
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father gives all that he has to
the son. Now I find this difficult
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to understand, but so helpful when
I hear the scriptures speak for themselves,
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and I hope this is true for
you as well. So here's some scriptures.
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John Nineteen, Jesus said to them. Truly, truly, I say
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to you, the son can do
nothing of his own accord, but only
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what he sees the father doing,
for whatever the father does, that the
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son does likewise. So you see
the distinction, right, the distinction between
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the father and the son, and
yet the perfect unity. There's no difference
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and no difference. Whatever the father
does, the son does likewise. But
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also is true that the son can
do nothing of his own accord. They
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are not the same person, though
they are the same God, again,
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the words of scripture, God himself. John Twenty One and twenty two.
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For as the father raises the dead
and gives them life, so also the
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son gives life to whom he will. For the father judges no one,
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but has given all judgment to the
son. John Twenty eight, so Jesus
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said to them. When you have
lifted up the son of man, this
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is in our passage today, when
you have lifted up the son of man,
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then you will know that I am
he and that I do nothing on
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my own authority, but speak just
as the father taught me. John Fifty
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four, Jesus answered, if I
glorify myself, my glory is nothing.
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It is my father who glorifies me, of whom you say he is our
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God. John Forty nine, for
I have not spoken on my own authority,
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but the father who sent me has
himself given me a commandment what to
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say and what to speak. John
Thirteen. Three, last one for the
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moment. Jesus, knowing that the
father had given all things into his hands
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and that he had come from God, was going back to God. Again,
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that same language that we're focusing on
his coming and is being sent and
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then is going Jesus knowing that the
father had given all things into his hands
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and that he had come from God
and was going back to God. So
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what's the point of this? One
implication of this is, do you see
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now why we worship the father and
the son and not just a generic God
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with no reference to either one,
or mixing the father and the son as
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if they weren't distinct? How can
we deny a distinction between the father and
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the son when Jesus is constantly saying
there's a distinction between him and his father.
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And yet at the same time,
how can we divide the two as
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if they were two gods, or
or one God and a lesser God or
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something like that? How can we
divide them when he is constantly saying that
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he does everything and has everything,
that God, the only true God,
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has given him, that the image
of God, as Hebrews says, has
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been is made manifest in the sun? We I don't mean to neglect the
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spirit at all. We will come
to him at a later time, and
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Jesus brings that up in this passage
briefly. His primary focus is on him
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and his relationship with the father,
which is why our focus is here for
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the moment. But just just remind
ourselves, remember of verses thirty seven through
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thirty nine, when Jesus says,
if anyone thirsts, let him come to
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me and drink. Whoever believes in
me out, as the scripture is said,
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out of his heart flow rivers of
living water. Now this he said
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about the spirit whom those who believed
in him were to receive, for as
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yet the spirit had not yet been
given because Jesus was not yet glorified.
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We worship Father, son and Holy
Spirit, and not just a generic God
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with various names, but we worship
the triune God, who is father,
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son and spirit, because that's the
only true God to worship. That's how
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he has revealed himself. This is
who he is and that's why Jesus can
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say, if you don't know who
my father is, you don't know me
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and you can't know the father if
you don't know me. They are one.
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The father, who has given all
things to the son in the spirit,
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has done so so that we might
come to the father through the son.
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This unity between God or in between
the persons and within God himself,
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this way in which we express that
God is one perfectly unified, not split
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in any way in his essence,
and that that communion is characterized by things
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like beauty and solidity and perfection and
holiness and love, means that when Jesus
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offers to us a way to enter
into that fellowship with God himself, we
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dropped to our knees and we say
praise you, O great and mysterious God.
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It's why we put all of our
life and our hope in Jesus.
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When he says in John Fourteen six, I am the way, I am
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the truth, I am the life
and no one, no one comes to
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the father except through me. If
we want to go to the father,
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we must go with Jesus, through
Jesus, because you can't separate the two.
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You cannot separate the father and the
son, because you can't separate God.
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These are the bonds of divinity,
the divine nature that cannot be separated.
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I can barely tie a piece of
you know, carefully, rip a
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piece of paper into or cut a
plant stem easily. There is no dividing
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God, and that is how secure
your salvation is. What is all this
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revelation, these great mysteries, this
these things that are being revealed to us?
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Is it God coming into the world
to just mess with our minds and
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confuse us? No, he is
telling us these things so that we might
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hear him and follow Jesus where he
goes, so that we might find life.
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Those who reject him, the Curse
of Eight hundred and Twenty One,
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John Twenty one, belongs to them. You will not go. You will
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remain here below in your sins until
the judgment of God comes on this world,
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and then you will die in your
sins. But to those who are
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lifted up in Christ, who is
lifted up first on the cross and then
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from the grave and then into heaven. That's you, and that's why Paul
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says you have been raised with Christ
into the heavenly places. You are seated
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with him, who is above,
above. Why on Earth, I'm add
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about it. I would you put
yourself on things that are below when our
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sins are forgiven? In Him,
just the opposite is heaven. We have
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the new man, we are united
to his body. And then we have
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promises like this in John Thirty seven. All that the father gives me will
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come to me, and whoever comes
to me I will never cast out.
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Or John Ten twenty nine. My
father, who has given them to me,
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is greater than all and no one
is able to snatch them out of
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my father's hand or out of the
father's hand. That's how safe we are
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in Jesus, that's how protected we
are in him. And these promises are,
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of course, fulfilled when Jesus is
lifted up, first on the Cross,
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in this kingly exaltation in which,
through suffering and death, he overcomes
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our sins. He is a perfect
sacrifice and atones for us on the Cross.
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And then, finally, as I
said before, when he's lifted up
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into heaven. Notice that the ascension
and Jesus is exaltation. There is not
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just sort of like an add on
right you have. You know Jesus is
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death and his resurrection and you know
we're basically done with the salvation story,
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Jesus says, and John here what
we read. We are not done because
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there is no sending of the spirit
until I am lifted up. In other
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words, Jesus is going to the
father. Is An essential part of our
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salvation. The church does not get
built up into a living temple of God,
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as we read earlier in Ephesians,
in which the God and will dwell
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in the spirit in us, unless
Jesus goes. God sends us in love
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and then Jesus ascends in love.
He doesn't abandon us. He does this
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thing so that his spirit would come, so that he can prepare a place
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for us. That's what Jesus is
doing now. That's why we walk by
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faith and not by sight. That's
why we don't wander around the world every
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day looking for our savior. We
know where he is. I'll close by
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reading passage from John Fourteen. He
speaks to those who do believe in Him
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who do follow him and go where
he goes. He says, in my
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father's house are many rooms. If
it were not so, would I have
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told you that I go to prepare
a place for you and if I go
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and prepare a place for you,
I will come again and will take you
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to myself, that where I am
you may be also. Isn't that good
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news? Isn't this news about Jesus
being sent and even his going good news?
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He goes to prepare a place and
he says, and if I'm preparing
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a place, surely I'm going to
come. I haven't left you, I'm
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getting things ready, I'm making the
place ready so that when I come again,
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I will take you to myself,
that where I am, you may
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be also. This is what it
means to be a disciple, a follower
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of Christ, to understand him as
he is, to believe him as he
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is and then to follow him as
he is. Praise be to the one
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true Tryun God forever and ever.
Amen. Let's pray